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	<title>Comments on: All Hands On Deck: Oppose Senate Orphan Works</title>
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		<title>By: Blake B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blake B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 14:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I may be wrong (and I can&#039;t be arsed to wade through several thousand pages of leagel documents to verify it), but... Isn&#039;t this bill in violation of the Berne Convention and TRIPS agreement. As I understand it no signatory state may instatute any law or legislation that cercumvents the terms of the international treaty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I may be wrong (and I can&#8217;t be arsed to wade through several thousand pages of leagel documents to verify it), but&#8230; Isn&#8217;t this bill in violation of the Berne Convention and TRIPS agreement. As I understand it no signatory state may instatute any law or legislation that cercumvents the terms of the international treaty.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://blog.chasejarvis.com/blog/2008/05/all-hands-on-deck-oppose-senate-orphan-works/#comment-8211</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 11:42:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They have a new revision in the works it does contain better wording in sections but it too is still way to loose. Also, the entirety of the proposed law would allow the copyright to die with the copyright holder which means that heirs would now be disenfranchised from a current inheritable asset.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ben Cochran&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(4) REASONABLE COMPENSATION- The term `reasonable&lt;br /&gt;compensation&#039; means, with respect to a claim for infringement, the&lt;br /&gt;amount on which a willing buyer and willing seller in the positions of&lt;br /&gt;the infringer and the owner of the infringed copyright would have agreed&lt;br /&gt;with respect to the infringing use of the work immediately before the&lt;br /&gt;infringement began.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have a serious problem with this one too. Let’s say that it is a first publication for an artist and that the infringing party has a schedule for new artist ~vs~ established artist that they have listed? Let’s say that a well established artist may charge $10,000.00 for the use of this image but the infringer normally only uses stock images at a price up to $500.00 for use. Once more, a first time artist that may have only been paid $35-$50.00 for their past works that were only used in News Paper print would suffer drastically with this provision. Wouldn’t the court refer to the past pay of the artist as reasonable or what this particular infringer normally pays? They would greatly benefit by breaking this new law and the artist would suffer drastically. It comes very close to price fixing in my book but it goes much further in the government providing legislation that entities can use to break a particular law for profit. It takes rights from one group and gives to better benefit to other, who fall into the category of minority in numbers of will and only measures composition benefit for the minority at the expense of majority. In this case the minority holds the collective purchasing power over the majority who only want to protect their current rights of livelihoods. At least that is the way that I see it...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The provision also stated the composition would be equal to what would have been negotiated prior to the infringement. So, if this work would have been illegally used in a derivative 20 years ago, would that not constitute the first infringement and also devalue the work of current rates? Seems that this bill would also go a long way in devaluing collectable arts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They have a new revision in the works it does contain better wording in sections but it too is still way to loose. Also, the entirety of the proposed law would allow the copyright to die with the copyright holder which means that heirs would now be disenfranchised from a current inheritable asset.</p>
<p>Ben Cochran</p>
<p>(4) REASONABLE COMPENSATION- The term `reasonable<br />compensation&#8217; means, with respect to a claim for infringement, the<br />amount on which a willing buyer and willing seller in the positions of<br />the infringer and the owner of the infringed copyright would have agreed<br />with respect to the infringing use of the work immediately before the<br />infringement began.</p>
<p>I have a serious problem with this one too. Let’s say that it is a first publication for an artist and that the infringing party has a schedule for new artist ~vs~ established artist that they have listed? Let’s say that a well established artist may charge $10,000.00 for the use of this image but the infringer normally only uses stock images at a price up to $500.00 for use. Once more, a first time artist that may have only been paid $35-$50.00 for their past works that were only used in News Paper print would suffer drastically with this provision. Wouldn’t the court refer to the past pay of the artist as reasonable or what this particular infringer normally pays? They would greatly benefit by breaking this new law and the artist would suffer drastically. It comes very close to price fixing in my book but it goes much further in the government providing legislation that entities can use to break a particular law for profit. It takes rights from one group and gives to better benefit to other, who fall into the category of minority in numbers of will and only measures composition benefit for the minority at the expense of majority. In this case the minority holds the collective purchasing power over the majority who only want to protect their current rights of livelihoods. At least that is the way that I see it&#8230;</p>
<p>The provision also stated the composition would be equal to what would have been negotiated prior to the infringement. So, if this work would have been illegally used in a derivative 20 years ago, would that not constitute the first infringement and also devalue the work of current rates? Seems that this bill would also go a long way in devaluing collectable arts.</p>
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		<title>By: Victor Perlman</title>
		<link>http://blog.chasejarvis.com/blog/2008/05/all-hands-on-deck-oppose-senate-orphan-works/#comment-8212</link>
		<dc:creator>Victor Perlman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 14:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, you make a great point.  Any orphan works amendment in the U.S. will&lt;br /&gt;almost certainly apply to works from all over the world.  Sadly, the U.S.&lt;br /&gt;government does not seem to care that other countries may not share the same&lt;br /&gt;view of how orphan works should be handled as the U.S.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The prime examples of that attitude in the Copyright realm is the U.S.&lt;br /&gt;approach to the &quot;moral rights&quot; of copyright owners.  These rights (sometimes&lt;br /&gt;called the rights of paternity and integrity) are extremely important in&lt;br /&gt;most other countries.  When the U.S. joined the Berne Convention in 1989, it&lt;br /&gt;was required to amend its Copyright Act to provide moral rights.  It did&lt;br /&gt;that, but it did it in such a way as to make them almost non-existent and&lt;br /&gt;applicable only to very limited editions of fine arts.  Take a look at §106A&lt;br /&gt;of the Copyright Act to see what it says.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Off-hand, I do not think that there is much that photographers from other&lt;br /&gt;countries can do to affect U.S. copyright law.  Typically, U.S. lawmakers&lt;br /&gt;are interested in hearing only what their constituents have to say.&lt;br /&gt;However, you could try contacting your own lawmakers to see if, at the&lt;br /&gt;national, diplomatic level, your governments might talk to some people in&lt;br /&gt;the U.S. government to let them know how distressing all of this is and how&lt;br /&gt;economically devastating it might prove to international trade.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Just a thought,&lt;br /&gt;Vic&lt;br /&gt;---&lt;br /&gt;Victor S. Perlman&lt;br /&gt;General Counsel &amp; Managing Director&lt;br /&gt;American Society of Media Photographers (ASMP)&lt;br /&gt;http://www.asmp.org</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, you make a great point.  Any orphan works amendment in the U.S. will<br />almost certainly apply to works from all over the world.  Sadly, the U.S.<br />government does not seem to care that other countries may not share the same<br />view of how orphan works should be handled as the U.S.</p>
<p>The prime examples of that attitude in the Copyright realm is the U.S.<br />approach to the &#8220;moral rights&#8221; of copyright owners.  These rights (sometimes<br />called the rights of paternity and integrity) are extremely important in<br />most other countries.  When the U.S. joined the Berne Convention in 1989, it<br />was required to amend its Copyright Act to provide moral rights.  It did<br />that, but it did it in such a way as to make them almost non-existent and<br />applicable only to very limited editions of fine arts.  Take a look at §106A<br />of the Copyright Act to see what it says.</p>
<p>Off-hand, I do not think that there is much that photographers from other<br />countries can do to affect U.S. copyright law.  Typically, U.S. lawmakers<br />are interested in hearing only what their constituents have to say.<br />However, you could try contacting your own lawmakers to see if, at the<br />national, diplomatic level, your governments might talk to some people in<br />the U.S. government to let them know how distressing all of this is and how<br />economically devastating it might prove to international trade.</p>
<p>Just a thought,<br />Vic<br />&#8212;<br />Victor S. Perlman<br />General Counsel &#038; Managing Director<br />American Society of Media Photographers (ASMP)<br /><a href="http://www.asmp.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.asmp.org</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://blog.chasejarvis.com/blog/2008/05/all-hands-on-deck-oppose-senate-orphan-works/#comment-8213</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 05:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, this law would suck</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, this law would suck</p>
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		<title>By: TritonSecure</title>
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		<dc:creator>TritonSecure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 03:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lots more here... http://www.itwire.com/content/view/18308/53/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lots more here&#8230; <a href="http://www.itwire.com/content/view/18308/53/" rel="nofollow">http://www.itwire.com/content/view/18308/53/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Chase Jarvis</title>
		<link>http://blog.chasejarvis.com/blog/2008/05/all-hands-on-deck-oppose-senate-orphan-works/#comment-8215</link>
		<dc:creator>Chase Jarvis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 18:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good question, David.  I&#039;ll see if I can&#039;t get someone in the know to chime in here...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good question, David.  I&#8217;ll see if I can&#8217;t get someone in the know to chime in here&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Marcos G. Meider</title>
		<link>http://blog.chasejarvis.com/blog/2008/05/all-hands-on-deck-oppose-senate-orphan-works/#comment-8216</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcos G. Meider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 14:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Totally agree with you David.  This is going to revolve into big problems and it will have a global effect on all of us. Quite worrying!!.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally agree with you David.  This is going to revolve into big problems and it will have a global effect on all of us. Quite worrying!!.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 20:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Bill will not only effect US residents but anyone who makes their work available on the net. Just because you live some place other then the US does not mean that you are not effect by this bill, if someone in the States decide to use your work without your permission you will have to go after them in US court.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Any idea how Non US photographer can help out to get this thing taken off the table?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Bill will not only effect US residents but anyone who makes their work available on the net. Just because you live some place other then the US does not mean that you are not effect by this bill, if someone in the States decide to use your work without your permission you will have to go after them in US court.</p>
<p>Any idea how Non US photographer can help out to get this thing taken off the table?</p>
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		<title>By: Taylor Norrish</title>
		<link>http://blog.chasejarvis.com/blog/2008/05/all-hands-on-deck-oppose-senate-orphan-works/#comment-8218</link>
		<dc:creator>Taylor Norrish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 18:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a great way to contact your reps is at Govit.com/usgovernment/contact &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Registration is free and literally takes seconds. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Another great way to take action is to vote on the actual legislation and have your vote, and letter, sent direct to your reps. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;http://www.govit.com/S_2913/&lt;br /&gt;http://www.govit.com/H_R_5889/&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Check it out, and take action! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a great way to contact your reps is at Govit.com/usgovernment/contact </p>
<p>Registration is free and literally takes seconds. </p>
<p>Another great way to take action is to vote on the actual legislation and have your vote, and letter, sent direct to your reps. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.govit.com/S_2913/" rel="nofollow">http://www.govit.com/S_2913/</a><br /><a href="http://www.govit.com/H_R_5889/" rel="nofollow">http://www.govit.com/H_R_5889/</a></p>
<p>Check it out, and take action! <img src='http://blog.chasejarvis.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Taylor Norrish</title>
		<link>http://blog.chasejarvis.com/blog/2008/05/all-hands-on-deck-oppose-senate-orphan-works/#comment-8219</link>
		<dc:creator>Taylor Norrish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 18:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a great way to contact your reps is at Govit.com/usgovernment/contact &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Registration is free and literally takes seconds. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Another great way to take action is to vote on the actual legislation and have your vote, and letter, sent direct to your reps. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;http://www.govit.com/S_2913/&lt;br /&gt;http://www.govit.com/H_R_5889/&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Check it out, and take action! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a great way to contact your reps is at Govit.com/usgovernment/contact </p>
<p>Registration is free and literally takes seconds. </p>
<p>Another great way to take action is to vote on the actual legislation and have your vote, and letter, sent direct to your reps. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.govit.com/S_2913/" rel="nofollow">http://www.govit.com/S_2913/</a><br /><a href="http://www.govit.com/H_R_5889/" rel="nofollow">http://www.govit.com/H_R_5889/</a></p>
<p>Check it out, and take action! <img src='http://blog.chasejarvis.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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